18 August 2020 at 12:45 pm #2329adminKeymaster
I really like the 2 opposing concepts of English as something external to be internalized and English as something created internally. While, like many of us, I’ve naturally thought of it as the first concept, I’ve been gradually moving towards seeing it as the second concept, and as plurilithic.
On that note, some places & contexts in which I think learners experience English (and in which I experienced it while being a learner) are:
– TV shows/movies (I think these are dominant)
– music lyrics
– the Internet (again, highly dominant context)
– conversations with friends (also L2 English speakers)
– during travels: in stores, restaurants, pubs, hotels/hostels etc. (with speakers of English from different socioeconomic, educational, cultural backgrounds).
I think in these contexts the kind of English found is “non-standard”, to different degrees (highly non-standard on the internet or if listening to rap music, for instance), so unlike the kind taught in class; but definitely the kind that learners as users will continue to encounter and employ in the future, as these are the real contexts of use.
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26 October 2020 at 7:47 am #3475Suparada TherdbarameeMember
There are many places that learner exposure
-Labels on products
I agree with admin that these are not standard English , but it used in real life.
15 November 2020 at 9:14 pm #3742Ahmed Abdullah AliMember
-Labels on products
3 December 2020 at 8:55 am #4163Angelica Marie EstrabelaMember
-social media platforms (e.g video clips, comments)
-daily communication (e.g chats, text messages)
-movies or TV shows
-conversation with language teachers
14 December 2020 at 4:39 am #4353Buddhika DaladawaththaMember
Students experience different variations of English in editorials, news bulletins, in forms of entertainment such as movies, songs etc. Sometimes, they get different norms or rather variations for example, English in a movie and the English in an editorial, one gets different standards : the norm and alternatives to the norm. So, it’s a kind of a mixture they experience in real life usage.
21 December 2020 at 1:12 pm #4573Dauda PikawiMember
The experience of another English by learners and even myself ouside the ‘formal’ sources like text books, teachers and tests is diverse. It is much more than the above mentioned formal sources:
The social media
The friends with diverse world view
Even listening to other subjects teachers
Just mentioning a few in my Nigerian case.
2 January 2021 at 4:07 pm #4743Pabasara PonnamperumaMember
In Sri Lanka, Students learn English as a second language. It is an official language in the country, and it is the only way to make a link with the international context. Therefore, it is compulsory to learn English language. In school, students tend to learn English language with essential grammar, vocabulary and lexical items including the four skills, reading, writing, speaking and listening. It serves only to learn the language and it is a standard variety of English language, Standard Sri Lankan English. But still there are contexts where English is used as in daily routine. For instances; Watching English movies with international content, usage of English in the daily life, listening music, chats with penpals and etc.
2 January 2021 at 7:37 pm #4757Deborah AyersMember
The majority of my students’ first experiences with English were via music, television, and movies. They often still come to me with questions regarding what they heard on the show they’re watching on Netflix, versus what we’ve been learning in class.
15 February 2021 at 4:50 am #5249Alexandra PakMember
The use of non-standard approaches in language teaching can motivate many students.
23 February 2021 at 10:30 pm #5299Richard ZadoriMember
Anything, as I do it.
25 February 2021 at 4:20 pm #5330Richard ZadoriMember
I listen to youtube channels (Papa Teach Me English, English Like a Native, Kings and Generals), tv shows (Game of Thrones, Dragons’ Den, Gordon Ramsay, Vikings), listen to a lot of rap music, shadow rap lyrics, do a lot of online tests (virtually everything I can find), listen to online teacher on instagram, Hallo app (I also teach there). I try to use EVERYTHING, ANYWHERE, ANYHOW…
1 April 2021 at 5:40 pm #5384Alex FerreiraMember
Youtube, Instagram, Twitter, TV shows…
1 May 2021 at 1:50 pm #5420Abdulsalam AderibigbeMember
As a teacher and an advanced learner of English some places where I and my students experience English includes:
1. Entertainment platforms such as music, movies and comedy.
2. Religious events which includes religious talks and preaching.
3. Social gatherings
4. Civic engagement and community development settings. E.t.c
8 May 2021 at 12:53 pm #5446Josephine RicciMember
22 June 2021 at 4:02 pm #5485Eleni VerikakiMember
Songs, movies, theatres, TV, social media, friends and co-workers (might have different or same L1 but speak English), books, travelling, shopping
English is used as a lingua franca in real life.
24 July 2021 at 12:00 am #5521Saul SantosMember
Outside the classroom, there are plenty of opportunities for English exposure:
At the beach, with actual people (all sorts of language users, from people coming from English speaking countries, people from other countries, the handicraft seller, whe has very limited linguistic resources)
I am thinking about my indigenous studwents at the university, in regards to their chances to encounter Spanish or the indigenous language: chances are much more limited for encounters with the indigenous language, but cenrtainly, opportunities for Spanish encounters are bigger.
16 August 2021 at 6:34 am #5554Neill PorteousMember
The most common way for my students to use English was when they were traveling. The Englishes they encountered varied widely depending on location. TV shows and Youtube videos are also common. I think they are more likely to experience English that is different from the classroom.
8 September 2021 at 1:38 am #5590Manuel CadedduMember
– TV series, shows and movies
– online in general (websites, podcasts, youtube videos, etc., and in an active way if they play videogames or take part in forum discussions, etc.)
– books, magazines, etc.
– technology (special vocabulary, sometimes instructions, etc.)
– advertising slogans and brand names
15 September 2021 at 12:11 pm #5599Simon FieldingMember
Places and contexts where people experience English outside the classroom:
– Work (in an English speaking country) – could be formal or informal depending on the job, or even business English
– Social situations: restaurants, cafes, pubs, hostels – informal
– Hearing two native speakers with a dialect – in the above social situations or on public transport – colloquial
– Online (Youtube, social media, news articles) – can be any kind of English
– Recipes (in a book or online) – many recipes from around the world are in English – normally makes use of the imperative/passive
– Marketing – even in a country with English as a second/foreign language, brands may make use of English
– Media: magazines/films/series/books/poems – again, a vast spectrum of the Englishes could be encountered
These contexts provide a far more authentic context in which to learn English than traditional classroom methods. Learning should be continuous and not end at a back of a textbook or with a test.
7 March 2022 at 5:48 pm #5743Jane O DaviesMember
Language experienced by our Ss? In a word (or two) the linguistic landscape, real and virtual.
English types? Non-standard, informal, subject to regional variation.
Future use? There may well be some overlap between the above English types and the English which learners will be using in the future.
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