27 August 2020 at 10:35 pm #2743adminKeymaster
When it comes to styles & registers and English varieties, mine is different than my students’, and each of my students’ is different than mine and than each other’s. We all come from different countries, cultures, L1s, backgrounds, own English learning experiences, and life experiences, so it can only be that our Englishes are different. I think what’s important is to recognize that and give it a voice and use that voice, and not want to sound like the abstract idea of perfect English (which isn’t even possible, as we’ve learned here). One thing I’ve noticed here in the US is that students come here to learn American English and they expect American teachers but at one of the schools I teach we have nowadays more non-native teachers than native. So when students see this I think there is some initial skepticism, but that quickly becomes encouragement. As language facilitators we have to help our learners understand that they are already users, that their English is valid and that they certainly don’t need accent reduction classes, for instance. Figuring out their goal is essential but also teaching them how realistic that goal is, without discouraging them from wanting to pursue language improvement. Maybe redefining what that means?
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18 October 2020 at 4:05 pm #3269Sahar AmerMember
Students use English in different ways:
Let’s look at some:
2- collaborative writing in wikis, Google Documents, etc.
3- fanfiction and creative ‘remixing’
4- instant messaging on computer
5- multiplayer online gaming
6- social networking (e.g. Facebook)
7- text messaging on mobile phones
Students bring in online texts in English which are relevant to their current interests and future plans, and, with the help of the teacher, try to understand how and why the use of English in these texts is both similar to and different from the ‘Standard English’ models used in the classroom.
18 October 2020 at 9:53 pm #3274Ayman Mahmoud MohammedMember
People learn English as a second language for different reasons. The first and the most important reason is communicating with native speakers . Most learners of English attempt to master English to travel abroad and improve their standard of living.
24 October 2020 at 9:51 am #3417Ayman Mahmoud MohammedMember
Leaners of English learn English for different reasons. They try hard to master the target language to achieve their dreams . Let’s share more light on the reasons behind learning English.
1 Using the social media
2 travelling abroad
3 learning in a European university
4 most subjects are taught in English
5 getting A better job
6 read international books
7 communicating with native speakers
8 passing proficiency tests ,Ielts
9 personal desire to grow professionally
10 find a job in a European country
11 December 2020 at 5:14 am #4254Angelica Marie EstrabelaMember
It is important that teachers would have assorted styles and techniques to accommodate different students with different English level and mental grammar. Also, knowing their intentions and reasons why they are learning the language is essential. Plurilithic views helps teachers embrace the kind of English that we have now and as it transcends from monolithic view (monolithic view is also essential but not at all times, for me).
25 December 2020 at 5:40 am #4595Buddhika DaladawaththaMember
Sahar Amer’s comments on contexts of English usage in real life are true of our part of the world too deffrenciating only in the variety each learner uses.
Another issue is since these varieties are rarely codified in the forms of text books or rather in the standard patterns. So, what happens is that standard becomes the norm in testing. So, the tussle begins as to the contextual usage and testing and certification.
ELT practitioners should come in one forum at least regionally or locally and reach agreements on these issues soon.
28 December 2020 at 5:55 pm #4658Dauda PikawiMember
We all have our individual registers or idiolects as it is. We can’t say that the standard English must be what every individual learner and teachers use, in my classes I try so much to use the plurilithic methods although in many occasions there are clashes with the policy makers and the supervisors coupled with the fact that many of the tests are standard tests derived from the text books. But classroom communication is always done using our own Englishes.
4 January 2021 at 6:29 pm #4788Pabasara PonnamperumaMember
In Sri Lanka, Sri Lankans aspire to learn Standard British English, the pronunciation and the speaking skills are mattered than Writing, listening or reading skills. In other words, there is a concept of “Kaduwa” exists. “Kaduwa” in English is the sword. It literally implicates English language plays a significant role in the Sri Lankan society. It opens for the idea of elite language in Sri Lanka. It shows the social standard of a person in the society. In Sri Lanka, “Standard Sri Lankan English” variety is existed. In classrooms, “Standard Sri Lankan” variety is used. There are registers which are related to “Standard Sri Lankan English” For instance; food items, costumes, questions tags. For instances; “Are you going to that party neh?” Here “neh” is a question tag. Then costumes like, Osariya, Hawadiya, then food items as, Kiribath, Kokis and etc.
12 January 2021 at 12:57 am #4842Deborah AyersMember
My own register and style in the classroom is pretty standard America English, and in class, I tend to use my “broadcast accent” voice. I occasionally play with them and do other accents that I know, and they laugh about it too. I also let them talk about things they’ve listened to outside of class, and about their understanding of what they heard or saw.
Right now, we are, unfortunately, a little limited in our varieties of English in the classroom since I only have 3 students, and two of them are from the same country. I am trying to get them to compare at least their experiences in terms of the two countries though.
11 February 2021 at 11:22 pm #5233
The students learn with the things in their enviroment; the most important is to use a topic that they like to use in class and catch the attention and it part the cultural topics are important, using the technology.
15 February 2021 at 5:03 am #5257Alexandra PakMember
Yes, that’s true.
21 February 2021 at 6:34 pm #5284
People learn for different reasons. They have got different motivations.
25 February 2021 at 12:14 pm #5325Hajar RanjbariMember
● your own variety of English and the register or style(s) you use in your classes;
It is clear that in my context we have lived and grown up from almost the same conditions and backgrounds. So our Englishes do not differ much since we are educated by official schools of languages and institutions which they promote types of teaching textbooks and deliver their own curriculum and syllabuses based on their own standards and viewpoints. Having said that, however, in this time and era, we are involved in some tasks and projects which necessitate us to deal with social media and checking something beyond our comfort zone, thus helping us to accommodate ourselves with more Englishes and be flexible with the varieties we may come across sometime. Moreover, having technology and apps that contribute to education and learning helps everyone to be free in their choices of sources and materials like listening to podcasts which are really different from the class listening practice.
● your students’ varieties of English and the register or style(s) they use in class;
They usually watch movies and listen to varieties of genres from many singers that even their first language is not English but singing English texts, sounds interesting to them. In addition, in this world which we tend to transfer data and information fast, and through International Langauge like English, all countries serve people and the world with English news that they differ in tone, word choice, and delivery.
● the varieties of English and the register or style(s) presented in the course books you use;
Many textbooks try to use authentic English from different contexts like magazines, newspapers, news, pieces of music, and so on but still, they are targeted to teach grammar and words. As we are teachers we can help and support our students with more things like TEDTalks and Youtube channel in which people are free to share what they have learned with wider communities regardless of age, education, social and economic class, based in English countries or not so this can enrich everyone to have self-confidence, create their own styles and register or follow and educate oneself in one or some distinguishing varieties of English, as having plurilithic perspective towards English language Learning and Teaching.
25 February 2021 at 5:24 pm #5338
My own variety of English is a mixture of Modern RP, Yorkshire, Scouse, Scottish and Cockney.
And that’s the way I like it.
Yorkshire is the closest one but I also sometimes say ‘liche’ (as a Scouse would say it) instead of like because I chuffin’ liche i’.
I’ve go’ a light Geordie in me speech as well and would you Adam and Eve it, that a wee bi’ a’ Cockney, too? 😉
27 February 2021 at 9:28 am #5345
I always try to include accents and dialects during my lessons.
I opine, it is extremely important to raise awareness.
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